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should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby dreamcast459 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:02 am

ok so im in the process of building a retro gaming pc. this pc will be used for xbox360 era pc games and below, it will also be used as a spare pc. my main pc is used for video editing and web surfing and playing games like doom 4 and the witcher 3.

i cant decide if i should toss in a dual core or quad core cpu below are links to some info you might need.

originally my pc had a core 2 extreme quad core QX6850 but i couldnt get it stable above 3.3GHz without temps reaching 90c even at 3.6 temps were close to 80-90c

so im stuck with either a dual core E8500 which i can overclock from 3.0 to 4GHz stable
or a quad core Q6600 which i can overclock from 2.4-3.0/3.5GHz

which cpu would be best for me i can get both cpu's for the same price of 10$ us so which would be best for the games i wanna play and why? i tried google but couldnt find much info and i trust my fellow gamers here


my cpu liquid cooler link: http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu ... -lite-240/

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the list of games im building this pc to play:
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resident evil 4,5,6
homefront 1
runescape
lord of the rings online
and lastly a few games downloaded from here but mostly games released before or during the xbox 360 era of gaming

edit i intend to overclock the cpu as high as i can just not sure if quad core or dual core would be best for games released between 2003-2014
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby hammer300 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:10 am

I would go quad myself
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby dreamcast459 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:13 am

i was thinking quad but the Q6600 has a stock spead of 2.4GHz and can only overclock to 3.5 and thats if im lucky most chips top out at 3.0GHz
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Dildo_Schwaggins » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:23 am

Of course go quad to future proof your rig. make sure it a true quad core because there are some dual cores that say quad core but they are not truly...

Yeah theres no real games that even use quad core yet, thought I saw one the other day, a space simulator on steam, said "requires quad core processor" but then I read the forums it will run fine on dual core

So yeah either way will probably be fine but a few years from now you may have to have quad core, that is if you even keep the computer that long, because all the parts just not the processor will be outdated quickly
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Dildo_Schwaggins » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:24 am

I have an i3-2120 and its frickkin awesome dual core

you can never depend on a high overclocked cpu yeah 10% is fine if you have the cooling, but once you go real high just don't think it will be stable all the time
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby dreamcast459 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:26 am

i already have an i7 rig as my main gaming pc this pc is just for playing some older games and as a backup pc
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Night-Spider » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:29 am

go for quad
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby erik1977 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:12 am

dreamcast459 wrote:crysis 1
bioshock 1,2
resident evil 4,5,6
homefront 1
runescape
lord of the rings online
and lastly a few games downloaded from here but mostly games released before or during the xbox 360 era of gaming


Quad
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby ClassicGamer90 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:35 am

Back then games were mostly GPU intensive where as today they are more CPU intensive. There really is no "future proofing" if the games you want to play have been out for a decade and you just want something to play games specifically from that era, so I understand that's all you need as you have a separate machine that can handle modern stuff.

With the LGA 775 socket I think you should go quad core if its not that much more. I have a Dell Optiplex 760 with that same socket that has a E8400 (dual core) paired with a GT 1030 and it struggles a bit to run Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (minor stuttering), but it runs Resident Evil HD fine on high settings.
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby HandySolo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:44 am

Quad mate hands down. I use the Phenom II x4 for those titles.
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby rodion » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:34 am

Nobody seems to read the original post. For old games you want best single core performance, you would have no use of 4 cores since most games wont use them anyway, and the dual core one seems to be much faster in single core performance:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-Intel-Core2-Duo-E8500/1980vsm13

Also building a retro machine these days isn't worth it unless you are 100% sure the game can not be run. If you have a PC for Doom 4 and Witcher 3 I don't see why you would not play Doom 3, Witcher 1 and other older games on it as well.

Today you have various graphics wrappers and fixes like nGlide, dgVoodoo, etc... which not only fix many old games, but enable you to force higher resolutions, antialiasing, better filtering, etc. and make games better than originally, similar to how emulators enhance console games. But these require newer hardware:
- On my new PC using nGlide I can emulate old 3dfx graphics cards to play 90s games with full hardware acceleration, while on my Win98 PC I would have to play it with a much inferior software renderer.
- I tried playing Starship Troopers, but it doesn't run on AMD cards, but my new PC is powerful enough that I could use WineD3D for Windows, that converts DirectX to OpenGL and fixes many games. My old PC would not be able not handle it.
- I couldn't play Lego Rock raiders on my XP machine, but on my new PC I can run it using dgVoodoo
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Massamo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:10 am

would go with 8-core
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Gamerone » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:38 am

It don't really matter, as long you can play the games your are interested in, with little or no problems.
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Moandain » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:37 pm

to save money go with a hi GHZ dual core
To future proof Go with Quad core.
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby ThruMy4Eyes » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:49 pm

since it's gonna be for those older games, go with the E8500, a rock solid chip - it will have better single core performance when overclocked VS the quad, and it's cheaper, plus it'll run cooler and use less electricity, and the games then didn't full utilize 4 cores, so dual core was still king of the hill.
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby nornor1 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:55 pm

If you are going backwards, not sure what OverClocking has to do with anything? there are plenty of benchmarks out there on these older CPU's. you can easily choose the best Bang for your buck. A lot of people overclock to get the most out of their current hardware, or they buy a cheaper CPU, and overclock it to match a Higher Priced CPU. Im sure these older CPU's are super cheap now, so there is no point. all you have to do is get a good graphics card and a dual core chip with Windows 7. you done! lol.
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby Sabkahn » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:01 pm

Dual Core. The only game from that list that just maybe would benefit from a Quad Core is Crysis 1, but that needs a beefy GPU probably more than it needs the Quad Core, plus it would run fine on your i7 System anyway if you are unhappy with the performance on this "new" machine.

I had a Phenom X4 9850BE paired with an Radeon HD 5500 for the better part of the 360 era and only at the very end of the era my GPU began to be a problem, I then upgraded to a GeForce GTX 560, that System could handle pretty much every 360 Port at 1080p/30 or at the very least 720p/30 or higher FPS depending on the game and Settings. A ton of games from that era where based on the Unreal Engine 3 and that isn´t really a power hungry engine all things considered. That CPU was really a ton of wasted potential during that era.

My bet would be that for some games the 9800 will be a problem, but like I said above, I wouldn´t bother too much with tweaking those games and just play them on a more modern machine that you seem to have anyway.

But in all honesty I don´t get this system anyway for the intended games. A XP-era machine I can get behind, I will build one myself in the near future, because some games like Fallout 3 and Midnight Club 2 are much easier to run on XP than they are on Vista or later. But for a full on XP build I would probably go with era correct Hardware from somewhere around 2004-2007, a fast single core (AMD Athlon 64) or an early dual core from either side paired with an ATI Card with TruForm support (not many games support that feature, but I´m a sucker for nevelty Hardware Features) and a Soundblaster X-Fi Card with EAX HD 5.0 support (F.E.A.R. sounds Insane on such a card)
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby ZX81v2 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:06 pm

Quad = Semi-Future Proof !
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Re: should i go dual core or quad core for gaming?

Postby robertjordan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:10 am

Quad core for sure.
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